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From: "Andrew J. Rózsa" <> Subject: Re: After Crying's "Bootleg Symphony" - Seeing a request for Finnish translation I remembered that I promised Otso a review of AC's "Bootleg Symphony ["Koncertszimfónia"]."

I'll make this one short and sweet... I absolutely delighted myself and listened to the CD several times. My wife thought it was "copelandish," and couldn't care less. But remember, she thinks Leonora No. 3 is the greatest piece of music ever composed, so you can't really trust her judgment - and if you tell her I said so, I will deny it.

This is NOT the album to start your After Crying listening experience, since, unless you know the pieces, you may not find them particularly attractive. Almost all the tracks have been heard on previous albums, albeit, sometimes in hugely different form. The influence of folk music is there in many variations, as we expect from AC. This is modern symphonic music, with prog elements, rather than what we usually hear, which is prog based on symphonic music. Strong brass, strings, etc. frequently take the foreground, although Lengyel Zoltán's piano, Pejtsik Péter's cello or bass, Madai Zsolt's percussions, Torma Ferenc's guitar, and Winkler Balazs' trumpet are always in strong evidence. Andrejszki Judit's vocals remind me of PLP's Magdalena. Legradi Gabor's voice it's pleasant and clear. The instrumental expertise of the players is, as always, exceptionally good.

Don't be surprised if you hear Gershwin or Oldfield styles. The dynamic range of the music is terrific: from very delicately lyrical (Track 5) to almost belligerently BIG sound (e.g. Track 9). And, of course, the humor in Track 12's "Burlesque" is well know to all. I dare you not to smile.

It helps if you understand the lyrics, but you don't need them, since the music stands on its own merit. If you are keen on translations, English translations are available at AC's site:
This was played for an audience who expected and got modern classical music. ["bootleg" refers to the fact that this was a live stereo recording at the Liszt Ferenc Music Academy in Budapest - I think; I am going to start exporting cough suppressants to Hungary and make a fortune! :-(]

The quality of the recording is good, but the sound of the tracks is variable. Frequently the endings are not polished - they end abruptly, mainly because several tracks will make up a Part. Otherwise, the album is near studio quality.

Overall, I love the album, but then these musicians cannot do wrong by me: I like everything they did or do. Having said that, I reiterate: this is not a "starter's" album. If you have heard the music before and liked, you will have a very pleasant surprise... this is the extension of that music further into what I consider "modern classical."

If you like AC, definitely get this album.

The album is in four parts and the tracks listing is as follows:
I 1.Viaduct Symphonic version / szimfonikus változat
2. Struggle for Life I-II (including: Enigma) Symphonic version / szimfonikus változat
3. Enigma Symphonic version / szimfonikus változat
4. Struggle for Life II
II 5. Suburban Night / Külvárosi éj from Struggle for Life '
6. Cool Night / Jó éjt from Struggle for Life '
7. Night-Red / Éjszaka New release / Új kiadás
8. Cool Night (reprise)
III 9. Arrival of Manticore I / Manticore érkezése I Symphonic version / szimfonikus változat
10. Aqua Almost Pure Instrumental '
11. Intermezzo After Crying 6 '
12. Burlesque After Crying 6 '
IV. 13. Finale (from "Big Evil Fun Fair Final") Original orchestration from After Crying 6 '
14. Shinin' Original orchestration from Overground Music 6 '

Somebody asked for consensus as to the best album After Crying has... my reply was as follows:

From: "Andrew J. Rózsa" Subject: Re: RE: After Crying's "Bootleg Symphony" I understand your question, but I have no answer for you. Others' mileage will vary. I don't listen to albums. I listen to music. To me, the music of a group like AC, is like a bagful of real (not cultured) pearls. They may not be perfect, in fact it is the flaws that make them unique. Each is beautiful and valued on its own right. Some are bigger, some are smaller, some are rounder, others are more misshapen. Yet, when you make a necklace out of them, you have true beauty to behold.  Similarly, any given one track of an artist or artists may appeal to me one time more than others, but all will fit into the overall picture, over time.
Depending on my mood, which is variable, and the environment, circumstances, and listening device, I may pick one track today as delightful, and another tomorrow.

I don't participate in polls (although I find them interesting) because I don't listen to albums by year of release or category. I hear about a 1972 album in 2001, and that album may be the best I have heard in February of 2001. The same album may leave me substantially less satisfied 2 months later. And vice versa. I find a group that touches me and it's quite possible that I will acquire everything that group has released and will listen to nothing but them for several weeks on end.

AC's style of music, their instrumental skills, their philosophy, their evolution over the years, their fitness with my own cultural heritage all combine to make them my all time most favorite musical creators. Today.
But I felt this way about Walter/Wendy Carlos in the late 60s, Tangerine Dream and Pink Floyd in the 70s, the Italian and German proggers in the 80s, my electronic musician friends in the 90s, etc. Sometimes my likes and dislikes run seasonally... last Christmas and this year's I couldn't get enough of TSO's 3 albums, for instance. Occasionally I listened to operatic Christmas albums, or gospel singing, even a cappella, but I kept returning to TSO. Next year? Who knows? :-)

As far as consensus is concerned.... I'll be absolutely amazed if there IS consensus..... which is what makes this list absolutely a pleasure to read.

From: "Andrew J. Rózsa"
Date: Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: [e-Prog] new Vedres Csaba and Korai Orom available

Some of you here it is:
I found a Hungarian source for Vedres Csaba and Korai Orom.
I bought the following:
Vedres Csaba: "Zongorazene" (Piano Music) CD; XP006
Vedres Csaba: "EPHATA I. - Tortured & Formatted" CD; XP013
Vedres Csaba: "Lélektánc" (Spirit Dance) CD; SKKTCD202
Korai Öröm: "2001", CD; KORAI0006
and Emil is selling them for $10 a piece plus $5 for shipping... so the 4
CDs above will cost $45, everything included. Emil Biljarszki is the
promoter and manager for the group Korai Orom (see reviews at e-prog Web site) and now also the export manager for Fono Records (Hungary).
Write him directly at <> or visit the store at: and check out the Katalogus. They are listing only the new stuff, but they have a lot, if not everything we need from Vedres and Korai Orom. I have asked about Solaris and After Crying, will let you know. Dont' worry about the Hungarian. They speak English and eventually will have everything tri-lingually. Meanwhile, ask me... I will translate, or look for stuff for you.

Jó zenét, mindenkinek. 

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